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and his

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band warming up this crowd. Get them

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going, buddy. Come out on the sea and hear how

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buddy. Come out on the sea and hear how
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song with [Music] me. Yeah. Heat. [Music]
Heat. Heat. Heat.
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[Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music]
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You got a lot of hair. It's like you've

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lost weight since last Sunday.

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[Laughter]
All right, let's make it official, shall

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we? Let's Let's anoint this thing and

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get it going. Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Right. Good people of Minneapolis and

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the surrounding counties. Let's say

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hello to Jensen Ankles and Jared Palaki.

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You're going to love this crowd. This

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has been so great. I have to say real

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quick, uh, Steve Ro and I have to catch

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a plane. So, we're not going to be here

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for the outro of you guys. I just want

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to say good night. Goodbye. Goodbye,

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Minneapolis. Thank you so much. [Music]

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[Music]
Look at that. I love when we pretend

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like Steve.

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when he's honest with his hate for me.

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It's Billy.

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It Billy's last man's name. It's not

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like you guys are playing a coffee

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house. You got one guitar playing.

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Hello. What's up?

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[Applause] So, I was walking down the hall just a

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So, I was walking down the hall just a
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me let me just hop in here and go to the

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bathroom real quick." And as I walk into

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the bathroom, I hear anywhere you want.

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I'm like, "Oh,

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[Music] [\h__\h] Come [\h__\h] Come
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on." So, there was a dark spot on his

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pants. Now, I know why. Oh. Oh. Is he

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going to drink Jessie Borha? Jessie Borha?
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Are you doing the drums? Where did that

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come from? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, since we

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since we've lost the entire band,

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uh I kind of feel like

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There's so many bells down here. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Applause]

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cuz he broke it.

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Uh, y'all are now witnesses to our first

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and only ever concert.

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I got to say that was pretty good, man.

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himself. Uh, so long story short, if

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that was American Idol, we did not uh

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get through to Hollywood. Golden ticket.

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No, we did not get golden ticket. Uh, hi

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Minneapolis St. Paul.

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[Applause] Uh, thank you for being here and not

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Uh, thank you for being here and not
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big faces and some uh friendly faces

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from the past. Let's uh let's get to

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some questions. How are you? Hi, I'm

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Who's your question for? Just kidding.

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Nicole. Hi. Yeah. Um, so you

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collaborated with Steve and then you got

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to sing with Corey from SNAT. I'm just

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wondering if there's a dream

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collaboration you'd like to do dead or

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alive person.

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skill set that I

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[Music] had on the instruments up here. Uh, I I

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had on the instruments up here. Uh, I I
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answer your question. I don't have a I

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wish uh so I wish I had an answer for you but

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uh so I wish I had an answer for you but
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you who would you want me to collaborate

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themselves then hopefully I'm able to uh

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Cory reached out and and and and then I

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collaborating. There's there's a lot of

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about uh timing and and it's when that

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opportunities in the future. Um, but to

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to pick one person or even a group of

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people, I I could I couldn't do that. I

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just I just hope for the opportunity,

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whoever it might be. I hope for that for

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you, too. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause]

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that I love your work and you're amazing

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enjoyed watching your wives on the show

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too. [Applause] [Applause]
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wives both do a panel and I was just

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wondering if that might ever be a

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possibility. Yeah, thank you.

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right now, Denal,

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that sounds great to me. Problem is is

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that you'd have to be watching our kids.

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[Music] Somebody's got to be doing the real

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to watch them?

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ask a stupid

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question. I I think they'd love to they

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I'm sure they will. Uh you know, not

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speaking for Denal or Genevieve, but to

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speak having spoken to Genevieve. Uh she

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she'd love to be here. She she wants me

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to do the spate method of like parenting

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and start bringing one child for a

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convention. Uh I think she just wants to

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get rid of one.

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two." Uh, but so so a few of them might

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exponentially harder than two. Yes. Yes.

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sometimes and I'm like, "Must be nice.

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Isn't that adorable?"

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element. Game changer. Yeah. But yes,

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they would love and I don't know why.

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say hello. My name is Sonia. I was

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wondering over the many, many seasons

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that you filmed, what was the most

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embarrassing moment on set?

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do think ripping my

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weren't embarrassed by that. You thought

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my thigh? Um, I I think I think one that

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the bowl of blood.

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Season six. Uh, French Mistake. Yeah.

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Bobby's house like in pseudo uh

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Winchester Universe and he puts a a bowl

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of blood on the couch and Jensen or Dean

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is doing something and I'm nearest to

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the bowl, you know, I'm standing here as

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Sam and the bowl is like right here. Uh,

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and then I can kind of see we're in the

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middle of the scene and the bowl starts

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tipping and instead of going like I got

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go blood everywhere. Like fake blood on

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the couch. Blood. And Jensen goes,

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this?" I was like, "I don't know. It was

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happening." It was It looked like this.

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instead he jumped

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back and then it went all over the

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couch, all over the floor, everywhere.

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probably shape
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in like an alley, right? Yeah.

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think it's a shape

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shifter and I couldn't for some reason I

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I just couldn't spit out the word shape

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shifter and I was like it's a shape

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shifter. It's like we got to go because

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shaft. And then he's just like

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go back. There we go. There we got to

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go. I think we're dealing with

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a I couldn't say it. I don't. And it was

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it was like one of those moments where

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it's like, what's happening to my

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brain? And uh and and so it got down to

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the point where it's like, Sam, we got

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to get out of here. I think we're

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dealing with a shape

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shifter. And then so he didn't tell me

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he was going to do that. So I lost my

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changed through his skin. Um, look for

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it now. If you go back and look at it,

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like what be like, hm, he kind of

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changed kind of changed the whole tone

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of his vibe right on that one word. It's

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like that was why they probably cut away

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from your face. I I hope so. I can't

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remember. I hope so. We all hope so. Um,

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but yeah, to Justin's point, he comes

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out and I'm ahead of him and he's like,

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"Sam, wait, what's going on?" like,

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"Well, we I don't know. I have a

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feeling." So, we're we're going to get back before

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So, we're we're going to get back before
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Robert Dunal is amazing, was directing,

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and he's like, "Hey,

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Jess, we don't know what the [\h__\h] he

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just said. If you can do another one in

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said. If you can do another one in
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be chef's kiss." So, Justin's like,

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"Yeah, yeah, I get you. I get you. I got

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it. I got it." So, we go back and like,

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"Okay, we run out." Sam. Yeah. Deep. Um,

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we can't leave yet. Look, I'm I'm sure

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that I sense something inside and I

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think it might be a

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shoot. It's like we got to go back and

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it's like I'm kind of going like,

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"Jensen, have you been drinking or

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something?"

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"Jensen, thanks. That was great, too.

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still What just happened?

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baseball toast. And uh and so finally we get to

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toast. And uh and so finally we get to
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Run out the door. Sam, yeah, we can't

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leave yet. Listen, I was inside and I

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feel like something happened and I get

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the sense that it's a shape

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shifter. So that was my response just

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like laying on the

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floor. Well, laying on the ground in the

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alley in

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downtown laughing. Germs

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laughing. Germs
everywhere. You know when you ask Google

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Translate to say a word for

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you? That's what I sounded like.

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Okay. That was

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embarrassing. Thanks for bringing that

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back up.

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Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Hi, I'm Carlin from Nashville and I just

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want to say I love you so much and I'm

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really grateful for everything that you

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all do. Um, sticking with the music

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theme because I work in the music

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industry. I want to know what y'all uh

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comfort album is. Comfort? Yes. Oo, good

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question. Um, what this I hope this doesn't sound

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Um, what this I hope this doesn't sound
like a joke, but what is yours? I like

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this question. I don't know if I've ever

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been asked this. Probably Fleetwood Max

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Greatest Hits. Uh, wow.

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Uh, wow.
Um, I'm going to try something. And I

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think you know music how it changes.

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Sometimes you're in a mood, you want to

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you're comforted by like hardcore rock

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or you're comforted by, you know, a

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lyricist or pop or whatever. Um, right

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now I think what would comfort me quite

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a bit is like dooop like Mottown like

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the brothers.

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Yeah. Thank you.

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Yeah.
There's something really feel good to

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me. My my daddy listened to goo up and

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Mottown all the time and like Roy

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Orbison. Uh my mom listened to like

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Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin. Uh

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which is fine. Um cuz you'd think of

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being flipped. But I think you know like

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uh Earth Angel from Back to the Future

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or something you know like that that era

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uh like the 50s uh the music I it it

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always comforts me. They're bonets.

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You're listening to Be My Baby. Uh

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a second ago um a few months ago. Um

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yeah, I go like do

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that's interesting. Um I cuz mine's very

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similar. Uh and I I'm going to give you two. Um

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Uh and I I'm going to give you two. Um
but one of them is what I was kind of

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raised listening to because my father

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had a lot of these albums. Um, and and I

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I now have it on uh on vinyl and so it's

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uh Sinatra's greatest hits.

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So like you can put up like me to the

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moon, let

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[Music] me like that. I'm

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me like that. I'm
like I'm happy.

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Um, but also I think as uh obviously as

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I' as I've grown up I I've ventured into

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a lot a lot of other musical genres uh

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and have you know an affinity for for

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all different kinds of music. um a

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comfort version now that I've maybe

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found myself

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uh is uh like which is going back I'll

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go like Miles Davis kind of blue um like

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you I could put that on and just feel

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very at ease and comfortable. Um but

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those are comfort albums. I have other

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albums for if I need a different

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feeling. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Thank you. Thank you so much.
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[Music]

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from Wisconsin. And my question is for

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both of you, uh, with all of the like

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religious themes throughout the the

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seasons, was there ever a time where

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there was episodes that you struggled

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with or were maybe a little

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uncomfortable with? And if there weren't

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any, were there things that you would

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like to have seen done? Hi, Cody from

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Wisconsin. Um, thanks for the question.

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It's a great question. Uh, I will say I

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remember me for sure. I think the both

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of us, but Jensen can correct me if I'm

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mistaken. The first episode was it

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called Touched

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or Hell, Holy of the Hell, House of Holy

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or Angels or something. When we first

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reached the angel and demon

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uh

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storyline, I think we Well, I I'll speak

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for a second.

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I think what I loved about Supernatural

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for the first two seasons or two and a

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half was it was kind of a story for

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everybody. Um, and you can put whatever

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meaning you want into it, much like

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music. Uh, and so talking about angels

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or demons or whatever it is, I was like,

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"Wait a second. Are we getting into like

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is this something the network or studio

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wants us to do and make it religious?"

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like this to me was um if you want to

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make it religious, make it religious. If

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you don't, then don't. Uh so I think

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that first episode um was difficult. I

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don't think it was ever difficult after

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that. Um and I played Lucifer, you know,

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I played demons, I played angels. Um but

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I knew that it was still a vessel to to

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tell stories, which is ultimately what I

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loved about it in the first place. But I

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would say just that one just the as far

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as the like religious tropes go. Um,

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yeah, I when we when we kind of ventured

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into that aspect or that realm of of the

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show, um, there was there was a slight

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hesitation, I think, from uh, he and I

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just being like, this isn't really the

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show that we signed on for. Uh, but

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maybe it was, and he just failed to tell

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us that.

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Um but when we when we kind of

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uh broke that barrier

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um it was it was very clear to us early

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on that this wasn't something we weren't

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getting into

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uh you

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know religious type of of there was

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there was no kind of

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um um what's the word I'm looking for?

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uh commentary

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on religion. It was taking inspiration

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from from the religious stories. And

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that was that was that was fun. We

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weren't literally dissecting the stories

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from the Bible and going after, you

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know, Noah and asking him how he made

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that work. It was it it it was it was

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more of like taking a generalization of

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of religion and the heaven and the hell

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and and utilizing that in our story and

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uh and doing it in our own way and

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taking creative liberties with that. And

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then I think once once we realized what

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what that was, then we were able to kind

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of hop on board and and do it. Yeah.

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Yeah. We we

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we to point I don't think we knew where

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it was going. And then I I guess there

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was one more point for me which was

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season 4 after the writer strike um and

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season 41 uh Lazarus Rising uh aired and

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I watched it and I was like okay we have

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an angel in the show you know Castiel

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and he's a new actor and his name is

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Mish show and I watched the show when it

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aired and I was like wait we're doing

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angels and ours is a [\h__\h] weirdo. All [Applause] [Applause]
[Laughter]

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right, I guess I got to sell my house. I

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don't necessarily know that was by

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design. I think that was just

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Misha and then we just had to deal with

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it for the next 12 years. Yeah, 12 more

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years. Uh, thank you so much for the

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question. [Music]

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[Music]
Hi. Um, I'm Rosella. Sorry, I love you

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guys so I'm shaking a little bit, but um

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I just I'm 18. I'm finishing my first

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year of college, and I'm sure you get

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this question a lot, but I'm wondering

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if you have any advice, like especially

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if you could go back and talk to your

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18-year-old self.

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[Music] Well, congratulations to your first year

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Well, congratulations to your first year
college. And uh yeah

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[Applause] uh neither of us went to college so I

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uh neither of us went to college so I
wouldn't know what to say to myself in

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the first year of college. Um, I

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Um, I
think this I think when I was in my late

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teens, early 20s, it was really a time

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where I would have benefited the most

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and I've benefited the most since then

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from all the questions I asked

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um not the answers I thought I had. Uh,

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so whenever you think you have the

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answer to anything or you haven't

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figured out, just ask more questions.

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Just keep on asking questions.

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uh doesn't have to be out loud uh like

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right now, but um

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yeah, remain curious. Um and I'm 42. I

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don't have any answers yet. I certainly

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didn't at 18. And that's not a statement

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of like ignorance or naity or something.

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It's just hey, you live, you learn.

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You'll find out who you are. You find

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out what you want to fight for, what you

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want to care about, where you want to

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spend your time. So, I think these years

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in your late teens and early 20s, if I

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were to give my opinion, I hesitate to

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give advice, but other than my opinion,

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uh this is a great time to ask every

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single question you can think

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of. This is a chapter in your

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life. I know it's your life right now,

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but it is not your whole life. And uh

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and don't don't sweat the small stuff.

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Uh you know you you you will be in a a

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completely different place both you know

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mentally and physically and emotionally

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uh throughout your life. And so um

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utilize this the best you can as a

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learning uh opportunity and and know that that it

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uh opportunity and and know that that it
doesn't begin and end in this stage of

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your life. You've got many to go. So

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enjoy it. Thank you guys so much.

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Hi. Um so my question is what did what

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was an rational fear you had as a child.

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Bears?

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As a child, not as an adult. Bears. I

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have I was afraid of alligators

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underneath my

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alligators. You from Florida? No.

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Okay. Okay. So, you you you were afraid of

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Okay. So, you you you were afraid of
alligators now? No. Under under her bed.

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That's why it's irrational. I see. Well,

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where do you live? I was from Oklahoma.

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[Laughter] You weren't afraid of tornadoes.

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Maybe a more rational

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fear. What's your address? No, mom. Is

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anybody home right now? Where do you

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keep your

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valuables? Okay. So, irrational fear. I

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get it. Cuz Yeah, cuz obviously Yeah,

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cuz there's no bears in San Antonio,

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correct? Did you have this fear of bears as a

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Did you have this fear of bears as a
kid? Yes, you did. You've had this fear

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your whole life? Bears,

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dude. I feel like I'm saying the same

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word. Okay. Bears.

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Okay. Bears.
Yes. I don't. So, this is Yeah. But that

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is a rational fear in certain

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circumstances or in certain parts of the

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world, like when you're being attacked

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by a bear, right?

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But it would be irrational to be afraid

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of bear, you know, bears coming out of

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of the bathroom.

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Are there bears in the bathroom?

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Guess I'm not peeing again today.

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But he has an alligator under your bed.

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That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

513
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,719
But let me ask you this. What What What

514
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,038
do you think sparked that?

515
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,278
Um, I hated having my feet hanging off

516
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:20,959
the side of the bed. Okay. So, you were

517
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,558
just afraid of like a monster under the

518
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,558
bed. No, it was specifically alligators.

519
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:25,999
But the monster was in the form of an

520
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,639
actual bee, which was an alligator.

521
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,230
Yeah. Got it. That sucks. Um,

522
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,439
cuz, you know, it was like it was like,

523
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,199
"Oh, there's a monster." And my like

524
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,798
monsters aren't real. It's You don't

525
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,879
have to worry about that. That's just in

526
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,439
in books and science fiction and a show

527
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,038
called Supernatural. You don't have to

528
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,879
worry about monsters under the bed. Uh

529
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:57,710
but yeah. [Music]

530
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,678
Um but an alligator is a real thing that

531
00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:03,278
could cause fear in certain

532
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,678
circumstances. And and so was there but was there like

533
00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:10,719
And and so was there but was there like
a book that you read or No, there was a

534
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,639
TV show or a a movie or a story that

535
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,038
somebody shared with you. You just said

536
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,639
it. You were like there's there's

537
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,359
definitely a massive lizard under my

538
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,918
bed. Explanation. There was no explanation.

539
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:28,239
Explanation. There was no explanation.
It's just alligators. They're scary. I'm

540
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,918
with you. I'm with you. I get it.

541
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:31,759
Alligator's not my thing, but bears. I'm

542
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,439
scared of bears. Let me ask you this.

543
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,519
When it as as as you've gotten older,

544
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,918
has that fear subsided or does it still

545
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:42,398
creep up on you? Um, so it's no longer

546
00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:45,119
alligators. Oh, we've changed. I'm here

547
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,110
for this. I'm here.

548
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,519
So, I thought hallucinations. So, it's

549
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,278
usually just people standing in the

550
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,199
corners of rooms. Yeah. See, that messes

551
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,839
me up right there. See, now now we're

552
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,398
getting into a

553
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:11,510
conversation because because this [Applause]

554
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,719
If I wake up and see that,

555
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,239
I'm blowing it up.

556
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,239
I've got the detonator and the whole

557
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,119
place is going up. Me included. That's

558
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,278
it. Gremlins from the What's that? I was

559
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:28,959
Gremlins from the What's that? I was
really scared of gremlins. Gremlins.

560
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,479
That makes fair. That's fair. That makes

561
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,439
sense. I love that. That's a good fear.

562
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,359
Um, okay. I know I had some. I'm just

563
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,798
trying to dig deep and try to find her

564
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,719
because now I'm like, nope.

565
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,439
Um, I

566
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,639
I
gosh, I don't I don't

567
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,558
know. I don't know that I I had one

568
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,359
specifically that like really stuck with

569
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,229
me. I mean, straightlegged people.

570
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:12,590
[Laughter] I just don't trust him.

571
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,278
Uh, yeah. I don't I don't know that I I

572
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,319
I think I have healthy fears.

573
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,479
What's a healthy fear? Healthy fear is

574
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,518
like when you see a rattlesnake.

575
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,119
But I'm from like Texas and Oklahoma.

576
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,959
Rattlesnakes are all around. Exactly.

577
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,558
But that's a healthy fear. It's like,

578
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,599
whoa, nope. Nope.

579
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,158
Nope. Mm-m. Like, that's How many

580
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:40,789
rattlesnakes do you live around?

581
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:48,918
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Jesus.

582
00:32:48,919 --> 00:32:51,839
Jesus.
Um, and you know, my wife is from

583
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,239
Louisiana, so and her parents still live

584
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,678
down there, and we go visit them quite

585
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:59,038
often. And so alligators are a thing

586
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,999
down there. Um, and we're we've I've

587
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,439
driven across the the Pon Train Bridge

588
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,999
many many many times, which is a

589
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,518
extremely long bridge and it is so close

590
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,759
to the water. They're a lot bigger than

591
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,199
you think they are. Yeah.

592
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,599
So, I feel like fear of alligators is a

593
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,639
healthy, rational fear, much like fear

594
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,759
of bears. But under your bed, you might

595
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,398
want to talk to somebody about

596
00:33:27,399 --> 00:33:30,959
that. Might talk to somebody about Thank

597
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:40,158
you. Thank you. I'm sweating. [Applause]

598
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,398
[Applause]
Okay. So, my question is, what advice in

599
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:44,079
the show aided in evolving your

600
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,918
character's perspective on the ethics of

601
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:48,719
hunting monsters? What advice from the

602
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,119
show? Events. What events in the show

603
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,798
aided I'm going to need you to just

604
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,239
repeat the whole question.

605
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,879
What events in the show aided in

606
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,639
involving your character's perspective

607
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,639
on the ethics of hunting monsters?

608
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:18,950
Dad. [Music] [Music]
[Laughter]

609
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,430
You'd like more than that, wouldn't you?

610
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,230
Like throughout the show, the Benders.

611
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,878
The Benders and Well, for Sam, the

612
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:37,759
Benders and um the clowns.

613
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,559
No, the benders and was it season one

614
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,799
where I got killed by office Hajj or

615
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,439
season two? Season two. I'm honestly

616
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,358
still trying to figure out the

617
00:34:48,359 --> 00:34:51,598
question. I like I like uh and it's

618
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,519
something I'm working on right now as a

619
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,199
human being. Not monsters or how to kill

620
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,519
them. Uh but I think with the

621
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,159
benders learning that sometimes, how did

622
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Dean put it? like the monsters aren't

623
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,919
the only evil or something cuz they were

624
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,358
humans. And then also the end of season

625
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319
two, uh yeah, where a lot of the kids from

626
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,519
uh yeah, where a lot of the kids from
the yellow demon uh were around and Sam

627
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,118
saw these kids that were all,

628
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,118
you know, poisoned with demon blood as

629
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,719
well and not wanting to see himself as

630
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,838
doomed or evil. you got to see you got

631
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,319
to see humans that were bad and monsters

632
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,118
that could be good. Um, and so treating

633
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,078
it like a a case by case situation. And

634
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:41,838
something I'm working on now from a book

635
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:43,358
that I read recently by Jefferson

636
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:46,078
Fischer called Conversation, Are You

637
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,239
Less, Talk More? Is the person you're

638
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,479
talking to, the person you see isn't the person

639
00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:01,790
to, the person you see isn't the person
you're talking to. I work

640
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,999
with you right

641
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,078
here. This is not what's going on. You

642
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:14,598
know, you can you can [Applause]

643
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,519
[Applause]
meet and don't sleep with your feet off

644
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,779
the bed cuz there's [\h__\h] alligators.

645
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:27,750
[Laughter] [Applause]

646
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:34,230
Okay. That's pretty much it.

647
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:35,919
In terms of like what makes someone

648
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,919
incredibly evil, who to kill, who to

649
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,109
spare, alligators and bears.

650
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:52,589
What what what prompted us to do this? What events?

651
00:36:52,599 --> 00:37:05,579
Right. Mom dying. [Laughter] [Laughter]
[Applause]

652
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:13,270
[Laughter] [Applause] [Applause]
Missing something.

653
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,319
Mom dies. Let me just explain the show

654
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,279
to you.

655
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,939
Dad gets

656
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,118
[Music] mad. Dad enacts

657
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,279
mad. Dad enacts
revenge

658
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,999
life, forces his sons to follow along

659
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,159
when really he was just, you know, it

660
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,598
was he was going to go it alone

661
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,159
regardless. But he said, "Come on,

662
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,199
boys." And and then as the boys get

663
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,118
older, one's like, "I don't want to do

664
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,999
this." The one's like, "Dad, you're my

665
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,990
hero." And

666
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,879
and and and keeps doing the revenge of

667
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,319
the mom thing and then learns how to

668
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,598
fight bad things and then each time they

669
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,879
fight the bad things they learn because

670
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,950
there's a journal involved.

671
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,679
It's like a stenographer that just this

672
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,799
is how you kill and then that bit then

673
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,319
informs us how we kill the things that

674
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,319
we need to kill in order to save the day

675
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:33,799
for the family is it's I'm still [Applause] [Music]

676
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:43,109
[Music]
unansis on the wrong sales.

677
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,118
Jared, I have a question for you.

678
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:48,519
What events in the

679
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,559
show aided?

680
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,879
Aided assistant aided

681
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,559
in evolving your character's

682
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,118
perspective, you know, like what

683
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,279
what are things that made them think?

684
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Mom dying. Mom dying.

685
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,838
Wait. And here's here's here's the

686
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:11,679
here's the the thing that I I wasn't

687
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,519
getting. Yeah. On the

688
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,759
ethics of hunting monsters.

689
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,919
My brother was like, "Do I do my in

690
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,399
terms of what makes one inherently

691
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,679
evil? Who to kill?" [Applause]

692
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,799
[Applause]
And you know, my

693
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,639
brother and have a good life, but dad's

694
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,679
my hero and mom died. Come hunt with me.

695
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,879
Uh, that's basically all I

696
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:47,510
remember. Thank you for your question.

697
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,750
Oh my goodness.

698
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,710
All right, we

699
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,999
won't see. Exactly. How are you? Hi, I'm

700
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,319
good. How are you? Um, my name is

701
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Alexis. Um, I love you guys so much

702
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,159
personal. Um, you guys have helped me a

703
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,239
lot um with my mental health and you

704
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,199
always keep fighting and supernatural.

705
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,279
Um, I was just wondering what you guys

706
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,959
um do to help you guys get through your

707
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,598
crisis bad days.

708
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,319
Uh, thank you for sharing that, Alexis.

709
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,559
Um, do what?

710
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:30,078
Sure. Uh, I, this is going to sound strange. I

711
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,879
Uh, I, this is going to sound strange. I
don't try to do one thing. I do try to

712
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,358
breathe and slow myself down. And I have

713
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:37,598
the tendency to kind of get ramped up

714
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,679
and revved up and talk quickly and think

715
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,039
quickly as as quickly as I can, but I I

716
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,279
guess I try to do everything. That

717
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,919
sounds cheesy, but I'll try and explain.

718
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,239
I try to find the joy no matter what.

719
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,239
And I remember everything. I try to

720
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,679
remember and remind myself that

721
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,679
everything you do is a sacrifice. You

722
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,598
could be home right now. You could be

723
00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,199
going for a walk right now. You could be

724
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,559
sleeping right now. You could be eating.

725
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,159
You could be watching television. You

726
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239
could be watching Pokémon cards getting

727
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:10,679
opened up on with

728
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,199
on with
me. Couple of hours on YouTube. Uh just

729
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,279
trying to find joy around cuz there's

730
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:27,270
there's a

731
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,879
There's a lot of joy and happiness

732
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,159
around you. And if you can if you can

733
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,639
find happiness and joy in whatever's

734
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,959
around you or whoever is around you,

735
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,118
then you'll never lack uh a fountain of

736
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,118
of joy. So, there are going to be days

737
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,959
and moments where you just can't find it

738
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,639
in yourself. But if you can find

739
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,999
somebody else to be happy for them,

740
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,999
truly happy for them, then they'll give

741
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,739
you something. So,

742
00:41:52,740 --> 00:42:05,838
[Applause] [Laughter]

743
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:08,449
[Laughter]
hi, I'm from San Francisco.

744
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,719
[Music] Long time, first time

745
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,318
Long time, first time
convention, but I wasn't following that.

746
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,078
Thank you for bringing this joy. I think

747
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,799
you just filled my son Jasper in my cup

748
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,078
for years of having joy in a memorable

749
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,399
moment uh to look back on. So, thank

750
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,919
you. Um I was curious, is there a role

751
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,999
that you tried out for over the years

752
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,759
that you didn't get and you're like, I

753
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,318
wish I got that or thank god I didn't.

754
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:37,838
I've never auditioned for something I

755
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:49,829
didn't get. Yeah. [Laughter]

756
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:54,639
Not true. Not true. Uh

757
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,919
[Music] uh what uh that that we didn't get that

758
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,279
uh what uh that that we didn't get that
we wish we had or that we or vice versa.

759
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,799
Or or Yeah. Or that you didn't get it

760
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,118
and you're like, "Thank God I didn't get

761
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,439
it." Um Yeah.

762
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,399
Uh uh yeah, I'll do the latter. Uh so

763
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,118
there was a a a pilot episode. This was

764
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,999
many many years ago. Uh and and it was

765
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,159
uh kind of changed the course of like my

766
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,439
mentality as far as the industry goes.

767
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,759
Um, and it was a I don't even remember

768
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,078
what network it was on, but it was a

769
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:34,879
this was in maybe the early 2000s and it

770
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,439
was it was a family drama show and it

771
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,838
was for the pilot of that show and it

772
00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:43,999
came down to me and one other guy and I

773
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,999
thought for sure I had it. I got all the

774
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,759
feedback and the director was like you

775
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,838
got this and the producer was like

776
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:51,919
you're our guy or whatever. I was

777
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,519
getting I was getting, you know,

778
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,479
positive feedback. And so, uh, I went to

779
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,199
the final audition and then when I went

780
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,519
home that day, I I basically waited by

781
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,199
the phone knowing I was going to get that

782
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,879
phone knowing I was going to get that
call, knowing I was going to have this

783
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,679
job. And um, and I got the call and they

784
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,559
they decided to go with the other guy.

785
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,959
There was it was me and one other guy.

786
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,559
And he wasn't me.

787
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,519
Uh, no. Okay, we know the guy. He's a

788
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,239
friend of ours. Um, and uh, and I I hung

789
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,639
up the phone and I I put my fist through

790
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,510
the drywall and and I

791
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,838
was, trust me, it was a weekend patch

792
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:41,999
job and I was pretty proud of it.

793
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,639
[Laughter] But uh it I immediately then called my

794
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,039
But uh it I immediately then called my
dad and I was very upset and and he kind

795
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,118
of gave me a pep talk in that moment

796
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:58,679
that switched the way that I uh

797
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,999
approached trying out for for jobs and

798
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,399
and that has helped me to this day.

799
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,999
um that show they made the pilot and it

800
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,559
never got picked

801
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,919
up. And had I done that, I wouldn't have

802
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,999
been available to do

803
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,639
Smallville. And had I not done

804
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,999
Smallville, I probably wouldn't have

805
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,519
gotten plucked off of that to do

806
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:35,670
Supernatural. [Applause]

807
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Yeah. Same. It's like the garlic song.

808
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,519
[Music] Uh un thankful for unanswered prayers.

809
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,959
Uh un thankful for unanswered prayers.
Yes. Thankful for like drafted for

810
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,919
unanswered prayers. Uh similar very

811
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,118
similar. Um, the first job I ever got

812
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,559
was a pilot shot in Chicago and I was

813
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,439
like the the lead was a female medical

814
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,838
examiner. Uh, she had a sister and her

815
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:04,399
sister had a son. That son was me. So, I

816
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,318
was like number 10 or 11 on the call

817
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,318
sheet. I probably would have worked a

818
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:11,358
day in episode. I was praying to get it.

819
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:13,999
Um, I did the pilot but the show didn't

820
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
get picked up. The show ended up getting

821
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,118
retoled and re-imagined and became a

822
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,279
show called Crossing Jordan, which is a

823
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,519
great show, but I would have been like

824
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,479
the 12th lead on Crossing Jordan for 12

825
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,919
seasons, which meant I never would have

826
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,199
done Gilmore Girls, I never would have

827
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,559
done Supernatural, I never would have

828
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,358
done anything I did between

829
00:46:32,359 --> 00:46:35,598
202. And um and so I'm grateful for the

830
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:38,159
opportunity, but I I feel very grateful

831
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,199
that that I'm here today somehow another

832
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,279
25 years after auditioning for Gamma

833
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,159
Girls and I'm I'm thrilled to be best

834
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,829
friends and wives.

835
00:46:48,830 --> 00:46:55,349
[Applause]

836
00:46:55,359 --> 00:47:00,639
Hi. Hi. I'm Amy from Los Angeles.

837
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,959
Californians, y'all are being overtaken.

838
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,159
San Francisco. What part of LA?

839
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,039
Hollywood. No. No. Let's go. What?

840
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,439
What's your

841
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,710
address? Stop it.

842
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,118
Where do you keep your dog?

843
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,479
You want my social, too? Sure. Street.

844
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,239
No, he's not that. He just wants your

845
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,519
What's your nearest cross street? I

846
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,479
don't want your address. What's your

847
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,679
nearest cross street? Oh, you'll know

848
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,759
it. It's Lankers Vinland Camaro. Yeah.

849
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,959
Yeah. All right. Yeah. little stomping

850
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,118
grounds. Yeah, maybe. Yep. I was at more

851
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:42,550
park in my right off and Yeah.

852
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,999
We're in Minneapolis, dude. There are

853
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,510
people watching.

854
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,679
So, you're both producing now as well as

855
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,959
performing both like producing your

856
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,598
own shows and uh via Chaos Machine.

857
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,159
Obviously, you and Danielle Jensen. Uh,

858
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,838
and I'm just curious what

859
00:48:02,839 --> 00:48:05,519
stories do you feel drawn towards

860
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,598
creating as producers? Like are there

861
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,519
certain things you gravitate to or are

862
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,118
there is there criteria you're looking

863
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:17,118
for in in new projects you're taking on?

864
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,759
Great question. Yes, sir. I mean, it's

865
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,358
so it's it's a difficult question to

866
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:23,679
answer because I I I I know what I think

867
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,519
you mean and and and you're right in

868
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,999
asking that, but the the reality is is

869
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,919
there's this little thing called IP,

870
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,759
intellectual property,

871
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,199
and there is um any IP that is out there

872
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,999
that is uh

873
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,959
proven is is owned.

874
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,959
Um you know, you're not going to you're

875
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,159
not going to get a a DC comic that

876
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,399
hasn't been done and just be like, "Oh,

877
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,759
this hasn't been done. I'm going to

878
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,118
produce this if somebody owns all." Mhm.

879
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:01,799
Um, so to find some sort of IP that is

880
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,159
available is the first the first kind of

881
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,759
hunt that you have to go on. Let's see

882
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,439
what's available. And then you have to

883
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,039
go and find, okay, well, why is it

884
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,318
available? Why does nobody Why does

885
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:18,399
nobody open this? Because there's so

886
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,279
much IP that is out there that is just

887
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,799
owned that you'll never see. people buy

888
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,279
it up because they don't want somebody

889
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,159
else making it, right?

890
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,838
And they'll shelf it or they'll just

891
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:33,759
keep it. They'll keep paying the, you

892
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,679
know, whatever the cost is that for the

893
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,759
deal they've made with the owner of that

894
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,598
ID and then they'll just keep it to

895
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:41,279
literally just they're like, "Well, we

896
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,959
don't know what we want to do with it or

897
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,639
if we're going to do anything with it,

898
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,719
but we just want we just want to know

899
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,959
that nobody else has it." there is so

900
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,318
much of that and so to even find things

901
00:49:54,319 --> 00:49:56,959
that are available is is very very

902
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,118
difficult. Um and then to find things

903
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:00,639
that are difficult that are or find

904
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,959
things that are that are available that

905
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,598
are good and resonate and have a shot at

906
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:09,078
actually being uh produced and

907
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,558
and invested money in and make for a

908
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,719
studio or a network or whatever it might

909
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,279
be. Um it is it is very difficult. We've

910
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,318
been very fortunate into we've found a

911
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:24,279
couple of IDs that speak to us that were

912
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,759
available that we are currently

913
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,078
producing and developing. Um, and so

914
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,558
it's I wish I could say, "Oh, we want to

915
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,439
do just comedy or we want to do just,

916
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,199
you know, action and adventure or we

917
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,879
want to the stuff that we have that we

918
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,558
currently have ownership of, not

919
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,479
ownership, but we we we hold the rights

920
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,799
to, I suppose, uh, that we are

921
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,879
developing are literally across the

922
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,118
board." U, but it's each of those things

923
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:55,039
I was like, I really like this. I think

924
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,639
this could be something. Um, but it is

925
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,439
it's not in one specific area. It's not

926
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,439
in one specific genre. It's it's kind of

927
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,039
across the board. So, um, it's it's a

928
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,279
difficult game to play the the producing

929
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,639
and developing game, especially being a

930
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,318
small production company. Now, granted,

931
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,159
we have a deal with Amazon, so that

932
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,879
gives us a little bit of of, you know,

933
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,399
leverage. uh if we really feel passionate about

934
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,838
uh if we really feel passionate about
something that we can go to them and

935
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:28,039
say, "Hey, I really like this this this

936
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,399
product, can I pitch it to you and give

937
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
you my ideas for how I want to do this?"

938
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,959
And we're doing it right doing it right

939
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,999
now. Um there was a book, I got it. I'll

940
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,118
tell you about it when I can. Um I

941
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,159
brought it to them. They said,

942
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,159
"Absolutely. We developed it. It's in

943
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,879
the script form now." Um so all of that,

944
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,759
but But the thing was is that we got

945
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,358
first crack at the book because I knew

946
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:54,559
the author

947
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,318
[Music] and that's really the only way to get

948
00:51:59,319 --> 00:52:02,318
and that's really the only way to get
things of merit these days because

949
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:04,799
everything is already owned. It's so

950
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,078
hard. I mean the reason people make

951
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:09,358
movies now they're like, "Oh, that

952
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:10,639
book's been out for years." It's like,

953
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,959
yeah, somebody was sitting on it for 20

954
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,679
years and finally gave it up and then

955
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,118
somebody quickly bought it who loved it

956
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:18,639
and made it into a movie or whatever it

957
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,358
is. So, it's it's a it's a it's a crazy

958
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:23,439
business this side of it, I'll tell you

959
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,439
that. Yeah, it's changing quite a bit.

960
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,439
He everything he said has run on point

961
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,439
um in my experience at least as well. Um

962
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,598
but the industry is also changing quite

963
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,838
a bit. Like we had a couple of union

964
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:37,199
strikes over the last two or three

965
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,639
years, one or two years. Uh, and so

966
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,479
there, you know, there are things that I

967
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,519
love to make with friends if I have two

968
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,558
months and some camera crew and some

969
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,879
wardrobe to just go make it and see if

970
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,279
anybody ever watched it. uh if you're

971
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,358
going to hope to make something that you

972
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:56,639
want to watch and people are going to

973
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,159
spend money on, there are certain it

974
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,838
there are certain stories that need to

975
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:03,439
be told right now and that there are

976
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,039
certain stories that studios and

977
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,039
networks want to tell right now that are

978
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,879
going to be totally opposite in two or

979
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,558
three years and totally opposite two or

980
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,719
three years from there. Um, but yet to

981
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,399
his point with the IP, the intellectual

982
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,838
property thing, like if I am a big

983
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,679
studio and I have a movie coming out and

984
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,598
it's called Convention Man, um, and I

985
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:29,279
spent 50 and I want to watch it. No, but if I

986
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,919
50 and I want to watch it. No, but if I
spend $50 million making this movie and

987
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,519
it's going to come out in 8 months, but

988
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,838
I find out there's another book or

989
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:38,719
script called like convention people and

990
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,959
I can pay them $100,000 a year just to

991
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,239
have the rights to that book so it won't

992
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,639
get made and cost me half of my box

993
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,399
office or whatever, then that's what

994
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,999
they do often. Um, and that's business.

995
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,399
Um, you know, it's it's very creative

996
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,558
and artistic uh our industry, but it's

997
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:57,838
also a business. Uh, and so I think

998
00:53:57,839 --> 00:53:59,039
there are a few stories I'd like to

999
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,159
tell. There are a few boats we have

1000
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,199
optioned as well. Um, and hopefully we

1001
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,239
get them made and get them made

1002
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,558
properly. I think we're also little fish

1003
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,879
in a very giant fish. Yeah, I feel that.

1004
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,959
Yeah. Thank you. Uh, thank you for your

1005
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,769
question. Take a

1006
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,910
[Applause] couple

1007
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,679
of bad day.

1008
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,679
Hi. Hi, I'm Crystal from Wisconsin. Um,

1009
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,799
so this might be kind of an unpopular,

1010
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,479
maybe popular topic. Um, yeah, let's

1011
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,999
go. Let's piss some people off. Let's

1012
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:57,270
go. [\h__\h] cheese heads. [Applause]

1013
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,799
So, the ending of the show, uh, it was

1014
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,679
not the ending that I wanted, but I

1015
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,439
respect everybody. Some people it was

1016
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,919
the ending that they wanted. Um, but

1017
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:21,519
wait, who who wanted it? [Laughter] [Music]

1018
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,999
[Music]
So, it was not the ending that I wanted.

1019
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,799
So, I'm just wondering if you had to

1020
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,039
change the ending, what how would you

1021
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,598
end the show? I would have just moved

1022
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:45,990
about 8 in to my left. [Applause]

1023
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,798
I knew it too. I knew it.

1024
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:52,798
Okay. So, how how what ending did you

1025
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,798
want? So, I would have liked to have seen you

1026
00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:59,279
So, I would have liked to have seen you
defeat God. And then we did. I know. And

1027
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,358
then the next episode you get a phone

1028
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,118
call. Somebody needs help. And you're at

1029
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,358
the back of the We did. You're at the

1030
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:07,759
back of the impala. And we got work to

1031
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,798
do. Boom. We did. We did. Just that.

1032
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:12,879
Just that. And it's up to us to decide.

1033
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,479
I just So you would have preferred a

1034
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,679
Oh, the the like the outside of the

1035
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,279
vampire nest, the shutting up the trunk

1036
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,719
and that was the end of the show. We

1037
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,639
never walk You never see us walk inside.

1038
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,078
No. Then it's up to me. I never wanted

1039
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:31,598
to see. Well, that's very selfish of

1040
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:32,838
you. I

1041
00:56:32,839 --> 00:56:35,759
know. I'm

1042
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,159
okay with you.

1043
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,549
How dare you take that away from us?

1044
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,798
I I didn't think I'm joking. Listen, I

1045
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:47,439
had the same reaction that you did or I

1046
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,358
felt I felt the same way that you did

1047
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:53,679
when I when I when we were pitched the

1048
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,999
ending. Uh I I did not I did not want

1049
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,798
that to happen. I just did not in my

1050
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:03,919
just in my being I was like

1051
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,919
He can't he can't die.

1052
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Uh it hurt like it hurt hearing and this

1053
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:15,759
was 10 months before we filmed. March it

1054
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,679
was like July. We didn't film until

1055
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,838
September. August. Oh, that's Oh, that's

1056
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:22,679
true. That's true. CO. That's right.

1057
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,318
Um Yeah. So yeah, it was over a year

1058
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:28,558
before before it actually happened that

1059
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:32,639
that I heard that and I I just I I was I

1060
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,159
didn't like it.

1061
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,239
Um that being

1062
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,798
said, I read a lot of things in the

1063
00:57:39,799 --> 00:57:41,959
script that I didn't

1064
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,119
like. I didn't like Bobby B.

1065
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,719
[Music] Um

1066
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,039
Um
but we're also in the business of making

1067
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,199
TV that draws emotion from

1068
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,279
people. And even though Bobby was so beloved and

1069
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,199
And even though Bobby was so beloved and
such a great uh part of the brother's

1070
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,519
world and

1071
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,679
lives, having him

1072
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,159
go made for really good

1073
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,919
TV because you see what they do next.

1074
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,919
That's Yeah, I think what he's saying,

1075
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,399
we talked about this. Um there's a lot

1076
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,078
that's whole saying pain is mandatory,

1077
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:25,598
suffering is optional. Like one of the

1078
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,118
great things about Supernatural because

1079
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:29,118
of our genre, because of our esbian

1080
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,519
family. Um and y'all sticking with us

1081
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,679
and knowing that we stick with y'all is

1082
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,919
we get to explore these really freaking

1083
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,399
uncomfortable situations unlike other

1084
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,959
shows and movies get to explore and go

1085
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,279
like, "Yeah, you lost your uncle. Yeah,

1086
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,959
you lost your dad. Yeah, you lost your

1087
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,798
mom. Now she's back in the Hall of

1088
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,239
universe. You have to deal with that. to

1089
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,719
confront these like you know it's like I

1090
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,309
had a nickel

1091
00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:56,479
um it's a significant effort to get

1092
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,838
through some of these trials and

1093
00:58:57,839 --> 00:58:59,519
tribulations and so I think that's part

1094
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,639
of why Supernatural why the writers

1095
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,719
chose to make it I can't watch it

1096
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,479
without crying I can't hear about it

1097
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,159
without crying the finale um but you got

1098
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,999
to see Sam go on you got to see Pete go

1099
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,838
on you know like this is going to be

1100
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:16,479
we've all we've all been through times

1101
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,078
in our lives we're like this is it.

1102
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:20,078
There's no way I can get through this.

1103
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,639
Um, and then a month goes by and you're

1104
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,279
like, I got through it. It still hurts.

1105
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,199
It still sucks, but a lot less than it

1106
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,879
did yesterday, a lot less than it did a

1107
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,318
week before, a lot less than you did two

1108
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:32,078
weeks ago. Then another month goes by,

1109
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:33,679
you're like, oh well, I I didn't even

1110
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,679
think about that yesterday. Um, and so I

1111
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,439
think part of what Supernatural and the

1112
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,519
Winchester Brothers in the entire cast

1113
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,239
and crew did was show like, hey, you can

1114
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,318
go some real deep, dark, heavy, hard

1115
00:59:45,319 --> 00:59:49,358
[\h__\h] and you can keep going. Um, and so

1116
00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:56,519
I'll stick with that and

1117
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,759
that and
you question and now that it's been

1118
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,159
asked and brought up, Jensen does have

1119
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,779
an irrational fear of rebar.

1120
01:00:04,780 --> 01:00:10,919
[Music] But remember

1121
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,199
But remember
this, had Dean not died that day, we

1122
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,879
would not have gotten to see Jared

1123
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,209
Padalucky in that great day.

1124
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:32,710
[Applause] [Music]

1125
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:45,078
You know what we need [Music]

1126
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:47,699
[Music]
you? You know what happened,

1127
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:51,309
[Music]

1128
01:00:51,319 --> 01:00:55,039
right? There's a last question.

1129
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,519
The last

1130
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,159
question. The last

1131
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,849
question. The last

1132
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,279
[Music] question. Please say hello to Morgan who

1133
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:25,270
question. Please say hello to Morgan who
is from right here in Indiana. [Music]

1134
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,719
All right, we are going to ask you our

1135
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,159
last question. Uh, Mr. Sedor Eckles is

1136
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,239
on his way. Let me ask you, can we get a

1137
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,318
little bit of house so you can see all

1138
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:36,199
your family out

1139
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:46,630
there? Never mind. No big deal. [Applause]

1140
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,999
So, here our last question and we would

1141
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,479
love to hear what it is. Um, so my

1142
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,999
question is, I know that the first

1143
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,519
couple seasons of Supernatural were shot

1144
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,159
on film. Um, my question is, what was it

1145
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,999
like working with evolving technology

1146
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:07,598
over the years? Great question. Okay, Okay,
[Music]

1147
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:11,119
I'm here for this. Mom's question.

1148
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:15,999
[Music] Where's mom? Where's mom? Mom. Mom.

1149
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,479
Where's mom? Where's mom? Mom. Mom.
Where's mom?

1150
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,239
What? More important right there. Hi,

1151
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,279
Mom. No, no, you're good. You're good.

1152
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,318
Uh, I'll go first. I'll try first. So,

1153
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:28,318
uh, it was a lot quicker because when

1154
01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:31,039
you were doing film, they had to load

1155
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,598
and reload all the film, you know,

1156
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:36,239
thousand foot mag or 300 foot mag. Um,

1157
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,318
check the gate, do takes over and over

1158
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:40,558
again if there's a hair in the gate. Um,

1159
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,399
whereas when we went to digital, it was

1160
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,159
easier to do visual effects. It was

1161
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,239
easier to reload. They just took a

1162
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,159
memory card out and put a new one in as

1163
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,399
opposed to like, okay, pull it out, line

1164
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,639
it, deliver it downtown, get processed.

1165
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,199
Uh, and so I I found it quicker went

1166
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,959
quicker. Well, there was a learning

1167
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,759
curve. Uh, certainly when when digital

1168
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,999
cameras were introduced, they they

1169
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,078
weren't foolproof. Uh, there was a lot

1170
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:04,838
of

1171
01:03:04,839 --> 01:03:07,919
like the camera would crash and so they

1172
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,039
would have to like reboot them. And you

1173
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,558
know, it was during that kind of like

1174
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,558
transition where people were going, is

1175
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:17,838
this worth it? Um, now that they've

1176
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:20,199
gotten to a point to where they

1177
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,719
are, it's I mean, it's astronomically

1178
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,598
changed the industry, you know. Um, not

1179
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:28,558
even just from from the camera aspect,

1180
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:32,798
but also uh what you can do digitally to

1181
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:35,838
the the the picture afterwards. So, it's

1182
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:37,679
it's been really unique. In fact, just

1183
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,159
the other day, I was sitting uh I was

1184
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,519
sitting behind the camera and it was the

1185
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,999
camera was on the

1186
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,118
dolly on a remote

1187
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:51,118
head, which means there was nobody

1188
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:53,919
operating it. The operator was in

1189
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,399
another in another room with a monitor

1190
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,399
and wheels and it was just like a

1191
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,199
moving, you know, robot basically. and

1192
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,199
they would follow us in and it would,

1193
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,439
you know, move and all and everything

1194
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,038
was being operated remotely. Uh, and he

1195
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,118
and I when we started Supernatural, the

1196
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:16,719
camera operator was like literally

1197
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,159
looking through the eyepiece. You had

1198
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,519
the focus puller that was on the camera,

1199
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,439
you know, moving the focus wheel. You

1200
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,798
had the dolly grip that was on the

1201
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:26,719
dolly. You had everybody was on the

1202
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,279
camera in like right there. But now

1203
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,439
everybody's like it's it's all done

1204
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,239
remotely. And I'm like, at what point at

1205
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,118
what point does AI take over and just

1206
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:38,479
you don't need a camera operator

1207
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,159
anymore. You don't need a focus puller

1208
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,439
anymore. You don't need a dolly grip

1209
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,399
anymore. You don't need anymore.

1210
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,598
You got to be careful what you wish for.

1211
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:49,919
It's been real. Uh, thank you. That was

1212
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,919
a really good morning. Thank you guys.

1213
01:04:51,920 --> 01:05:31,759
Thank you. [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Music]
[Applause]

1214
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,558
Not achieve, but not bad either. Not bad

1215
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:37,838
either, I would say. Mark, nice job,

1216
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:39,439
ladies and gentlemen. Not bad. Not good.

1217
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,159
Not bad. Better than Shakes, ladies and

1218
01:05:43,359 --> 01:06:13,670
gentlemen. Ji and Jensen. [Applause]

1219
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:58,679
I need your res. [Music] Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat.
[Applause]

1220
01:06:59,690 --> 01:07:29,959
[Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. I can

1221
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,639
I can
say there have been more configurations

1222
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,318
of the band on this

1223
01:07:35,319 --> 01:07:38,558
stage. This is a I feel like Bill just

1224
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:40,199
play with a

1225
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:46,309
bass. So I'm going to sus or something.

1226
01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:50,670
Not one day is going to say

1227
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,118
special. But all right, Mark Lo helping

1228
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:57,630
us out on Facebook.

1229
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,838
Listen, for those of you who have

1230
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:01,439
autographs and photographs, we have that

1231
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,199
to do. I hope some of you are coming to

1232
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,078
the post concert tonight. We do. That's

1233
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:09,358
Jason B, Billy Mar and myself uh waxing

1234
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:11,038
poetic about all the wonderful things

1235
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:15,039
over the weekend and playing some